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Armone Melchezidek
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Posted - 2012.05.17 02:15:00 -
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GeeBee wrote:My Thoughts
It does not need to be a high slot, it is fine as a low slot.
I fly a sentry fit domi's a and no matter where you put this mod on my main fit it is a sacrifice, Low slot sacrifices tank, high slot sacrifices utility. Given the option i would prefer to sacrifice a small amount of tank by trading a plate / resist mod on the lows for the Drone Damage Amp.
As the sentry sniper fit requires 2x Drone Link Augs and 2x Omnidirectional's already making this a low slot is the most balanced option for both shield and armor ships attempting to fit this.
I expect it to fit well and be used on Carriers / Rorqual's built for farming sanctums or doing a silly gate camp in a cynojammed system. Shield gank Domi, Myrm, Rattlesnake, Domi Navy issue, Maybe the sin? Sentry Fit ships, Domi, Ishtar,Rattlesnake, Maybe the Gila.
Also the topic of a drone damage mod makes me think of a couple other drone mod changes.
1) Make the Sentry Damage Aug rig work on all drones, not just sentrys.....if this mod works on all drones why cant that one?(also rename it)
2) Make Drone Tracking Mods more similiar to Gun tracking mods, Mid slot active and scriptable and low slot passive. Or Maybe even give the DDA a small passive tracking bonus and make the omnidirectional active / scriptable.
3) There is no mod (except an widely unused rig) that gives drones more hitpoints, as a stand alone mod it would be useless, but maybe as a passive bonus on all drone mods it could be useful.
I know this is late as inferno is getting its final touches but hey, maybe later>=D
-GeeBee
There are way more drone boats besides the Dominix. Saying that sacrificing some utility for a drone boat is a sacrifice for a high doesn't even make sense to me either. By making it a high drone users could actually choose to forgo guns and why shouldn't they be able to? They train months and months to get the skills needed to do this. No offense, but are you afraid of loosing some tractor beams for level 4s?
Also dropping one tanking mod to add one drone damage mod is not what most people are after. Most people excited about this want to put as many in these on their ship as possible and I'm not sure why CCP thinks that would be OP'ed; they would drop guns to do so.
What this will actually translate to is that people will be even more prone to skip armor tanks in favor of shield tanks to make use of those lows and that shouldn't be something that is encouraged by CCP. Believe it or not, I've already come up with an Ishtar fit that has an amazing ACTIVE shield tank (VS guristas and serps), and can reasonably fit 3 Drone damage mods.
This being said I'm still tickled that CCP is throwing us a bone, but concerned that to get the most out of it I need to grab some shield mods. Also for an Ishtar or Gila using up those lows in combination with the CPU requirements is just silly as CPU mods are lows, not just tank...
Still happy with what I'm seeing though and if need be I'll enjoy my new ActiveWTFShieldtar with great drone dps.
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Armone Melchezidek
My Own FFing Zone
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Posted - 2012.05.17 06:51:00 -
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"Also if it is a high mod it would be a clear nerf for carriers as they'd have to choose between drone control units and the drone damage amp."
It's my understanding that these mods do not affect fighter damage?
Either way, what's done is done and I appreciate the attention they are giving drone boats. They have implied that this module is not the only thing they are doing to remedy the situation.
Do you want my honest to goodness truth? I just want them to be highs because.... IT WILL SERVE ME. AHAHAHAHAHHA |
Armone Melchezidek
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Posted - 2012.05.18 20:50:00 -
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Hopped on Sisi and fitted up a Proteus drone boat..... 
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Armone Melchezidek
My Own FFing Zone
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Posted - 2012.05.19 20:48:00 -
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They are on the market on Sisi, if that's what you mean. |
Armone Melchezidek
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:58:00 -
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Thanks for the Proteus PVE Buff! High or Low I don't give a rip.
[Proteus, Drone Combat Explorer]
Corpus A-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
Corpus A-Type Armor Thermic Hardener
Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
'Thurifer' Large Capacitor Battery I
Gistum B-Type 10MN Afterburner
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Drone Link Augmentor II
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
Salvager II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
[Empty Rig slot]
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Proteus Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Proteus Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Proteus Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Garde II x4
Hobgoblin II x5
Warden II x4
I would honestly drop the turrets for some utility as they are completely unnecessary. |
Armone Melchezidek
My Own FFing Zone
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Posted - 2012.05.26 03:32:00 -
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Alticus C Bear wrote:Armone Melchezidek wrote:Thanks for the Proteus PVE Buff! High or Low I don't give a rip.
[Proteus, Drone Combat Explorer]
Corpus A-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
Corpus A-Type Armor Thermic Hardener
Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
'Thurifer' Large Capacitor Battery I
Gistum B-Type 10MN Afterburner
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Drone Link Augmentor II
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
Salvager II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
[Empty Rig slot]
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Proteus Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Proteus Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Proteus Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Garde II x4
Hobgoblin II x5
Warden II x4
I would honestly drop the turrets for some utility as they are completely unnecessary. Those sentry rigs stack very badly use another damage mod for the cap power relay and then use cap rigs.
Thanks for the advice, however I'm cap stable with reps, hardeners, and AB so not sure why you would want to ruin the fit by making it more cap stable than it already is (the turrets are not even being used). My guards now get 578 dps with that fit so there is no way I'd drop a rig. I guess you've never seen an ishtar with 2 sentry rigs (which is what this ship just replaced). Again, thanks for the advice, but my point was only to show the new possibilities of the drone mods, not to get advice. I still love my Ishtar but this ship now does outdps's my Ishtar build that I ran with pre-patch and it always did outtank it if you knew what you were doing. The Proteus is 5x more versitile than an Ishtar and now it has the damage projection it always needed. AGAIN, THANK YOU CCP!!
EDIT: Ok, I see what you were saying and I checked it and it would raise my dps from 575 to 589. I'm currently checking my cap-stability to see how that part of it worked out. Sorry I misread.
EDIT FOR POSTERITY: YOU SIR, ARE A GENIOUS!! |
Armone Melchezidek
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Posted - 2012.05.30 15:03:00 -
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I just wanted to point out what a lot of guys probably already noticed. If you use enough of these mods on a sentry boat the sentry damage rigs are no longer useful as they are also penalized as if you added another drone mod. I added a fourth drone damage mod as a smarter man recommended. Then I realize that my sentry rigs were only getting me minimal dps. Now my Proteus drone boat gets 586 dps with four gardes and 4 drone damage mods.
Thanks for freeing up my rigs Alticus C Bear. |
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